[GH-ISSUE #950] Please add support for Lenovo creator extreme #582

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opened 2026-05-05 06:17:34 -06:00 by gitea-mirror · 15 comments
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Originally created by @urmelchen2705 on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022).
Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl/issues/950

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DDC not working on Lenovo creator extreme

Expected behavior

Control monitor with DDC

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- Apple Silicon/M1 (yes or no): yes
Originally created by @urmelchen2705 on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022). Original GitHub issue: https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl/issues/950 ### Before opening the issue, have you...? - [X] Searched for existing issues - [X] Read through [the Monitor-Troubleshooting Wiki](https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl/wiki/Monitor-Troubleshooting) - [X] Updated MonitorControl to the latest version (if applicable) ### Describe the issue DDC not working on Lenovo creator extreme ### Expected behavior Control monitor with DDC ### Anything else? _No response_ ### Environment Information (please complete the following information) ```markdown - macOS version: - Mac model: - MonitorControl version: - Monitor(s): - Monitor Cable(s)/Connection(s): - Apple Silicon/M1 (yes or no): yes ```
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@the0neyouseek commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

Hi @urmelchen2705

Please fill out the information about your environment so that we can help debug the issue more effectively.
Could you try using https://github.com/waydabber/m1ddc and see if if works in controlling your monitor ?

<!-- gh-comment-id:1039990391 --> @the0neyouseek commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): Hi @urmelchen2705 Please fill out the information about your environment so that we can help debug the issue more effectively. Could you try using https://github.com/waydabber/m1ddc and see if if works in controlling your monitor ?
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@waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

Also if you are using HDR please try it in SDR mode and if possible with a standard color mode set in the display. I am interested in this display as I was considering buying one so it would be great to know if it works or not. :)

<!-- gh-comment-id:1039993583 --> @waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): Also if you are using HDR please try it in SDR mode and if possible with a standard color mode set in the display. I am interested in this display as I was considering buying one so it would be great to know if it works or not. :)
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@waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

Also, on Lenovo displays you can long press the Exit button (for 10 secs) to enable/disable DDC/CI so that might help. Please don't use HDMI to connect the display to the Mac as that probably won't work.

<!-- gh-comment-id:1039995472 --> @waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): Also, on Lenovo displays you can long press the Exit button (for 10 secs) to enable/disable DDC/CI so that might help. Please don't use HDMI to connect the display to the Mac as that probably won't work.
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@urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

Hi
Ok I will try that later today. The monitor is connected over usb-c

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 15.02.2022 um 09:30 schrieb Istvan Toth @.***>:


Also, on Lenovo displays you can long press the Exit button (for 10 secs) to enable/disable DDC/CI so that might help. Please don't use HDMI to connect the display to the Mac as that probably won't work.


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<!-- gh-comment-id:1040119851 --> @urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): Hi Ok I will try that later today. The monitor is connected over usb-c Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 15.02.2022 um 09:30 schrieb Istvan Toth ***@***.***>: > >  > Also, on Lenovo displays you can long press the Exit button (for 10 secs) to enable/disable DDC/CI so that might help. Please don't use HDMI to connect the display to the Mac as that probably won't work. > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub, or unsubscribe. > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS or Android. > You are receiving this because you were mentioned.
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@urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

I get this:

@.*** m1ddc % ./m1ddc display list
1 - CreatorXtreme (30AEA662-0000-0000-081F-0104B53C2278)

@.*** m1ddc % ./m1ddc set luminance 50
I2C communication failure: (iokit/?) unknown subsystem error

Am 15.02.2022 um 09:25 schrieb Guillaume B. @.***>:

Hi @urmelchen2705 https://github.com/urmelchen2705
Please fill out the information about your environment so that we can help debug the issue more effectively.
Could you try using https://github.com/waydabber/m1ddc https://github.com/waydabber/m1ddc and see if if works in controlling your monitor ?


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<!-- gh-comment-id:1040546945 --> @urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): I get this: ***@***.*** m1ddc % ./m1ddc display list 1 - CreatorXtreme (30AEA662-0000-0000-081F-0104B53C2278) ***@***.*** m1ddc % ./m1ddc set luminance 50 I2C communication failure: (iokit/?) unknown subsystem error > Am 15.02.2022 um 09:25 schrieb Guillaume B. ***@***.***>: > > > Hi @urmelchen2705 <https://github.com/urmelchen2705> > Please fill out the information about your environment so that we can help debug the issue more effectively. > Could you try using https://github.com/waydabber/m1ddc <https://github.com/waydabber/m1ddc> and see if if works in controlling your monitor ? > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl/issues/950#issuecomment-1039990391>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ASKKL77RVOFQRSY3YSH46M3U3IEXJANCNFSM5ONU2HQQ>. > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. >
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@urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

DDC was on. No luck yet.
M1dcc give me:

@.*** m1ddc % ./m1ddc display list
1 - CreatorXtreme (30AEA662-0000-0000-081F-0104B53C2278)

@.*** m1ddc % ./m1ddc display 1 set luminance 50
I2C communication failure: (iokit/?) unknown subsystem error

Am 15.02.2022 um 09:31 schrieb Istvan Toth @.***>:

Also, on Lenovo displays you can long press the Exit button (for 10 secs) to enable/disable DDC/CI so that might help. Please don't use HDMI to connect the display to the Mac as that probably won't work.


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<!-- gh-comment-id:1040563102 --> @urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): DDC was on. No luck yet. M1dcc give me: ***@***.*** m1ddc % ./m1ddc display list 1 - CreatorXtreme (30AEA662-0000-0000-081F-0104B53C2278) ***@***.*** m1ddc % ./m1ddc display 1 set luminance 50 I2C communication failure: (iokit/?) unknown subsystem error > Am 15.02.2022 um 09:31 schrieb Istvan Toth ***@***.***>: > > > Also, on Lenovo displays you can long press the Exit button (for 10 secs) to enable/disable DDC/CI so that might help. Please don't use HDMI to connect the display to the Mac as that probably won't work. > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl/issues/950#issuecomment-1039995472>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ASKKL76QIWWLZMLFONNZNLTU3IFNHANCNFSM5ONU2HQQ>. > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. >
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@waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

If DDC is enabled in the display and you get this error then something is wrong with the cable or connection maybe (or this display does not support DDC via the USB-C input - which would be strange as it uses displayport alt mode that carries ddc i2c commands all right). It might be that m1ddc is not fully compatible with the new MBP, I didn't try that. You might want to try a simple USB-C to DisplayPort cable if you have one around to see if it works. You can also try other apps like Lunar (@alin23) and see if that works.

Is the display connected directly via a standard USB-C cable provided by the manufacturer?

<!-- gh-comment-id:1040565046 --> @waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): If DDC is enabled in the display and you get this error then something is wrong with the cable or connection maybe (or this display does not support DDC via the USB-C input - which would be strange as it uses displayport alt mode that carries ddc i2c commands all right). It might be that m1ddc is not fully compatible with the new MBP, I didn't try that. You might want to try a simple USB-C to DisplayPort cable if you have one around to see if it works. You can also try other apps like [Lunar](https://lunar.fyi) (@alin23) and see if that works. Is the display connected directly via a standard USB-C cable provided by the manufacturer?
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@alin23 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

Me and @urmelchen2705 have been talking over email. He has already tried Lunar and has the same issue.

The monitor blocks DDC for some reason.

I took a look at the monitor manual and user guide and these are the settings that need to be changed for brightness control to be allowed:

  • Disable Local Dimming
  • Disable HDR
  • Disable Dynamic Contrast
  • Set Color Mode to Custom
  • Set Scenario Modes to Panel Native

If those settings are already in that state, then there's nothing we can do to make it work.

<!-- gh-comment-id:1040570676 --> @alin23 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): Me and @urmelchen2705 have been talking over email. He has already tried Lunar and has the same issue. The monitor blocks DDC for some reason. I took a look at the monitor manual and user guide and these are the settings that need to be changed for brightness control to be allowed: * Disable **Local Dimming** * Disable **HDR** * Disable Dynamic **Contrast** * Set **Color Mode** to Custom * Set **Scenario Modes** to Panel Native If those settings are already in that state, then there's nothing we can do to make it work.
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@urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

All settings are in that state but nothing. I’ve tried two original usb-c cables too

Am 15.02.2022 um 18:35 schrieb Alin Panaitiu @.***>:

Me and @urmelchen2705 https://github.com/urmelchen2705 have been talking over email. He has already tried Lunar and has the same issue.

The monitor blocks DDC for some reason.

I took a look at the monitor manual and user guide and these are the settings that need to be changed for brightness control to be allowed:

Disable Local Dimming
Disable HDR
Disable Dynamic Contrast
Set Color Mode to Custom
Set Scenario Modes to Panel Native
If those settings are already in that state, then there's nothing we can do to make it work.


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<!-- gh-comment-id:1040627284 --> @urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): All settings are in that state but nothing. I’ve tried two original usb-c cables too > Am 15.02.2022 um 18:35 schrieb Alin Panaitiu ***@***.***>: > > > Me and @urmelchen2705 <https://github.com/urmelchen2705> have been talking over email. He has already tried Lunar and has the same issue. > > The monitor blocks DDC for some reason. > > I took a look at the monitor manual and user guide and these are the settings that need to be changed for brightness control to be allowed: > > Disable Local Dimming > Disable HDR > Disable Dynamic Contrast > Set Color Mode to Custom > Set Scenario Modes to Panel Native > If those settings are already in that state, then there's nothing we can do to make it work. > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl/issues/950#issuecomment-1040570676>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ASKKL75JLA4OXCFS44AZ3IDU3KFE5ANCNFSM5ONU2HQQ>. > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. >
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@alin23 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022):

I took a look through the monitor database but you seem to be the only one using this monitor with Lunar so far. I have no data on whether the monitor should really support DDC or not. It's possible this is an incompatibility with the M1 DCP (Display Coprocessor) firmware, and hopefully it will be fixed in later updates of macOS.

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<!-- gh-comment-id:1040692483 --> @alin23 commented on GitHub (Feb 15, 2022): I took a look through [the monitor database](https://db.lunar.fyi/) but you seem to be the only one using this monitor with Lunar so far. I have no data on whether the monitor should really support DDC or not. It's possible this is an incompatibility with the M1 DCP (Display Coprocessor) firmware, and hopefully it will be fixed in later updates of macOS. <img width="1791" alt="image" src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/3819725/154133052-d4628c5f-20d8-46d6-a4c5-a07260d82ae8.png">
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@waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022):

Oh that's sad as this is a really great display (one that I was considering buying).

But: since this is a FALD/mini-led display, what happens if you use software dimming? If the mini-led control is implemented properly, it should have the same or even superior effect than brightness control via DDC, the hardware backlight should gracefully decrease in intensity while clarity should be retained (somewhat similar to what OLEDs do) so it actually might not make sense to use DDC brightness control anyway. What is your experience with this @urmelchen2705 ? Obviously volume control won't work with DDC being blocked.

<!-- gh-comment-id:1041178088 --> @waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022): Oh that's sad as this is a really great display (one that I was considering buying). But: since this is a FALD/mini-led display, what happens if you use software dimming? If the mini-led control is implemented properly, it should have the same or even superior effect than brightness control via DDC, the hardware backlight should gracefully decrease in intensity while clarity should be retained (somewhat similar to what OLEDs do) so it actually might not make sense to use DDC brightness control anyway. What is your experience with this @urmelchen2705 ? Obviously volume control won't work with DDC being blocked.
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@urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022):

Quick Shade from Mac Appstore works great. I’m using this now.

Monitor Control or Lunar doesn’t because it kills the HDR effect

Am 16.02.2022 um 08:04 schrieb Istvan Toth @.***>:

Oh that's sad as this is a really great display (one that I was considering buying).

But: since this is a FALD/mini-led display, what happens if you use software dimming? If the mini-led control is implemented properly, it should have the same or even superior effect than brightness control via DDC, the hardware backlight should gracefully decrease in intensity while clarity should be retained (somewhat similar to what OLEDs do) so it actually might not make sense to use DDC brightness control anyway. What is your experience with this @urmelchen2705 https://github.com/urmelchen2705 ? Obviously volume control won't work with DDC being blocked.


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<!-- gh-comment-id:1041405185 --> @urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022): Quick Shade from Mac Appstore works great. I’m using this now. Monitor Control or Lunar doesn’t because it kills the HDR effect > Am 16.02.2022 um 08:04 schrieb Istvan Toth ***@***.***>: > > > Oh that's sad as this is a really great display (one that I was considering buying). > > But: since this is a FALD/mini-led display, what happens if you use software dimming? If the mini-led control is implemented properly, it should have the same or even superior effect than brightness control via DDC, the hardware backlight should gracefully decrease in intensity while clarity should be retained (somewhat similar to what OLEDs do) so it actually might not make sense to use DDC brightness control anyway. What is your experience with this @urmelchen2705 <https://github.com/urmelchen2705> ? Obviously volume control won't work with DDC being blocked. > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl/issues/950#issuecomment-1041178088>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ASKKL76JGHVHGVVXK2RTT4TU3ND6NANCNFSM5ONU2HQQ>. > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. >
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@urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022):

Yes the Phillips could be good too. But unavailable yet.

I got the Lenovo monitor for 999 Euro

Am 16.02.2022 um 08:06 schrieb Istvan Toth @.***>:

Btw this display is rather rare, I think it is sold under this name in the EMEA region only, in other regions it is called Hermit Extreme). It seems to be the best 27" 4K mini-LED display in terms of price-to-value. Maybe the new Philips 27" 4Ks with 2304 mini-led zones will surpass it.


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<!-- gh-comment-id:1041406034 --> @urmelchen2705 commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022): Yes the Phillips could be good too. But unavailable yet. I got the Lenovo monitor for 999 Euro > Am 16.02.2022 um 08:06 schrieb Istvan Toth ***@***.***>: > > > Btw this display is rather rare, I think it is sold under this name in the EMEA region only, in other regions it is called Hermit Extreme). It seems to be the best 27" 4K mini-LED display in terms of price-to-value. Maybe the new Philips 27" 4Ks with 2304 mini-led zones will surpass it. > > — > Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl/issues/950#issuecomment-1041179353>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ASKKL7ZTBPTP6REG6ZS4E43U3NEF3ANCNFSM5ONU2HQQ>. > Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. > You are receiving this because you were mentioned. >
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@waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022):

Hi @urmelchen2705 - if you enable Avoid gamma table manipulation under Displays in MonitorControl, the app will use the same software technique as QuickShade for dimming. I believe there might be a similar setting in Lunar as well somewhere.

<!-- gh-comment-id:1041423999 --> @waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022): Hi @urmelchen2705 - if you enable `Avoid gamma table manipulation` under `Displays` in MonitorControl, the app will use the same software technique as QuickShade for dimming. I believe there might be a similar setting in Lunar as well somewhere.
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@waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022):

... you need to disable Use hardware DDC control as well for that to work under Displays.

<!-- gh-comment-id:1041424874 --> @waydabber commented on GitHub (Feb 16, 2022): ... you need to disable `Use hardware DDC control` as well for that to work under `Displays`.
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